Curse

Tender Wolf · Oct 29, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02

So many people I talk to hate Factions. My question is why? Factions is the most beautiful in my opinion, has one of the best storylines, doesn't have boring repetitive starter quests (like Nightfall's Istan ones), etc. The only thing I don't really like is that the faces don't really have any blue eyes (they're all brown, which is consistent with the Asian theme, but...yeah). To me they're all really ugly except a select few from the ritualist. And of course Zen Daijun is uber annoying unless you have a level 20 with heroes with you. But I love the whole Luxon/Kurzick thing, the beautiful scenery all around, and the cool story. I don't know why so many hate Factions. It's my favorite campaign. My faves go in alphabetical order by campaign and continent:

Factions (Cantha), Nightfall (Elona), Prophecies (Tyria)

So, yeah I don't know why so many people hate Factions and love Prophecies. Ewww...lol

Serenity Divinity · Oct 29, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

I like it, except for how the forest and kaieng center areas all seem to be huge mazes.

wilderness · Oct 29, 2007, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Kaineng Center Dragged on a bit too long.. but Factions is easily my favourite chapter.

All but my first two chars are Canthan born.

Factions > Prophecies > Nightfall.

etc..

Targuil · Oct 29, 2007, 05:00 AM // 05:00

It's too small, you get instant 20 lvl, story line really sucks. Shiro and afflicted, what were creators thinking? Skills don't shine and sin/rt doesn't shine either.

E: Forgot to mention it has new pvp mode too. Bad thing is that it isn't really pvp.

Whirlwind · Oct 29, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01

Well as long as were posting orders..

Nightfall>Proph>Gwen>Factions

factions just fails in comparison to any other imo. The storyline really isnt all that, elona and tyria's both blow it away. The locations are 'ok' but lack originality and end up being very repetative..

madamesabina · Oct 29, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

factions was nice until you had to grind 10k faction to advance.

oh and it was TOO short. it only felt epic during vizunah square and then from unwaking waters onwards.

thig · Oct 29, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

Why I dislike factions:

Crappy story line compared to Prophecies.
Forced PvP in PvE content.
Removal of skills as quest rewards.
Quests gives way to much xp, making it to easy to lvl up.
Connecting PvE skills to a PvP title just made it even worse.

These things makes Factions the worst of the 3 chapters.

Nightfall was a great improvement compared to Factions, but it will still only be second on my list, when comparing the 3 chapters.

Etta · Oct 29, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

I rather like Factions, the only thing that grinds my gear is some of the mission.
Time Attack Bonus = fail. Forcing you to team up with 8 other people in Vizunah Square and Unwaking Waters = fail, epic.

I Will Heal You Ally · Oct 29, 2007, 11:29 AM // 11:29

I love Factions! It's perfect on my opinion... except for the time bonus for master! I really dislike it especially if we're talking about HM some missions that you've barely done in NM not to mention the monsters there...
Wardens are also nasty but that's just the part of the forest

|pyro| · Oct 29, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51

I hate it because it looks like the world where geography has lost all its meaning.

bungusmaximus · Oct 29, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by |pyro|

I hate it because it looks like the world where geography has lost all its meaning.

lololol like WOODEN cities and STONE forests? Gotta agree with you on that one.

The only thing I find lame about factions is the horrible horrible voice acting (They should surgically remove Danika's vocal chords) but I happen to be one of the few that like the timed mission slugfests.

Proff · Oct 29, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Not much use for the skills if you have prophecies and night fall, no heroes, getting another chapter just to go through another storyline isnt worth it, sure rits and sins are fun but nothing spectacular or better than the other classes.

Only thing I really like is AB and how its divided into luxon/kurz.

Solveig Ikram · Oct 29, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16

Hehe, another thread where Factions can be bashed

What's good about it?: Echovald and Shing Jea locations are beautiful.
What's bad about it?: All the red dots in said locations, all the other locations and basically the irritation factor that is evident to me when playing anywhere in Factions.

Dreikki · Oct 29, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

Because I hate afflicted and Kaineng City.

Squishy ftw · Oct 29, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

IMO the only good thing about factions are the kurzick monk armors..

Now for the bad things:
- It's way too short (altho this is also positive, meaning I can complete it faster and leave it behind faster aswel)
- It looks awfully ugly
- I get lost in 70% of the kaineng areas/missions
- Afflicted are annoying, not because they got good skills or anything..just because they blow up in your face
- Some missions FORCE you to play with another 8men team, which can seriously ruin it
- The end boss (shiro) is just.. fail. Every nub and his minions making monk hero can kill that fool.
- ...

Silicon Based · Oct 29, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

I started GW in factions and am therefore maybe biased to believe Factions is one of the better chapters. I do like the speed with which you lvl up, the short distances (I hate running for miles and miles in prophecies for no purpose), the story line, the Pve / pvp kombo.
Compared to prophecies I think landscapes are much more beautiful and diverse in faction. Disadvantage is the mission mechanics with the time constraint for masters.
NF, however, wins with the addition of heros and and even better environment.
GWEN, well, what more can ANet get out of the game within the constraints of the soon elderly game-engine. I gave up on grinding for GWEN titles and GWEN armor.
Lastly I'm primary Rit, and maybe again biased by this, Factions is were my GW cradle stood, and who hasn't a special connection to the place they were born

Torqual · Oct 29, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Factions is GREAT for Armours and Weapons. Almost all the best skins are found there. The Echovald Forest and Jade Sea are very nice-looking areas, and also parts of Shing Jea. There's a lot of variety in Factions' landscapes. The skills are generally really good (especially the elites) and the plotline is ... OK.

The only disappointing things are the character skins (small in number and some plain fugly) meaning that the same small number of good-looking ones appear everywhere. Especially true of Rt's. And like everyone says, Kaineng City is horrible. It's not particularly attractive (like standing inside a Borg Cube) and hideous to travel around, even short distances. GW is a 2-dimensional game; this multi-level stuff was a bad experiment.

Overall though I think there is a lot to enjoy in Factions. Nightfall suffers from a lot of grind and samey-looking landscapes. Prophecies is great but taking 60% of the plot to get to level 20 isn't good for replayability.

As a result, most of my characters are Tyrian made, wearing Canthan gear, with the trimmings (heroes, reputation skills) from NF and GWEN.

Government Flu · Oct 29, 2007, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Although I don't agree with Factions having the best storyline (quite possibly the weakest of the four games in my opinion) I do think it's the most unique of them all. The terrain and variety within Cantha is beautiful, with the atmosphere in every region just right. From a small island settlement to a sprawling urban city all the way to a sea made of jade and a petrified forest, the amount of detail in Cantha is impressive.

Alliance Battles also created a nice balance between PvE and PvP gameplay, with both gamers coming together to clash away.

All in all, probably my favorite Guild Wars game. (And also the first I brought.)

gloria vander belt · Oct 29, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

i dont hate factions, i like factions, but it has no real game play, only 13 missions and is more for PvP in my opinion, prophecies was great how they set the missions and bonuses up, but timed missions can be a c**t when u have lag or a slow loading player on ur team(when helping online freinds), every mission is easy enough with just heros and henchies(except "The Eternal Grove" mission) (had to call in a guildie with heros)........but other then The Eternal Grove every mission is fun.

another thing people hate is the 2 party missions, but i just simply go to the european districts and find the empty district simple as that....

Factions is one of the easiest...it has a pretty good story line, but also started the suxon and kurzdick insults(annoying watching 12yr olds do that/say that)....oh and thanx to factions we have Ritualist

jhu · Oct 30, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

why does factions suck? for the following reasons:

1) voice acting is even worse than prophecies (i didn't think that was even possible...)

2) the storyline makes no sense whatsoever because the actions of the antagonist make no logical sense.

shiro: "i will now wreck havoc upon you from beyond the grave! try and stop me!"
us: "okay, we'll try and stop you! haha!"
shiro: "so you've thwarted me again! well, then i'll just become mortal so you can kill me!"
us: "wtf??? as you wish..."

3) areas cannot be run to. that would normally be fine, except some very useful skills are all the way south requiring going through several missions to get to. it's really annoying after going through the game for a 5th time.

About the only good things to come out of factions are high xp quest rewards and predictable boss spawns.